Plce webbing loadout reddit Velocity Systems Jungle Rig if you wanna get it all in one go and have a buttpack like a real American. If you look at the typical prices of the components this is excellent value. Posted by u/Japseye98 - 1 vote and 4 comments Have the Alice pick sit on top of the rear utility pouches of the PLCE webbing. 11 votes, 14 comments. The main attraction of 40k is the miniatures, but there are also many video games, board games, books, ect. I use an old British set of PLCE - Webbing, essentailly, adjusted to how I'm wanting to use it - as extra storage space aside from my plate carrier: 4x Triple Stack STANAG pouches (easier to use as doubles/grenade pouch, but can fit three) in sets of two, one on my left hip to carry ammo, and one behind my right hip to carry grenades I’m tempting to find a set of Jay Jay’s commander webbing after spending nearly a grand on different options to experiment with while trying to put together a similar setup. . The old PLCE webbing is decent and also can be found on eBay for cheaper. 337K subscribers in the airsoft community. Check out the PLCE kit (don’t have to get it, can just look at them for ideas/inspiration). 56 I'd go for an ALICE if you're not looking to spend a lot, or if you want something really gemmy go for British PLCE, used my friend's once and it was comfy and held a lot of mags There are a slew of heavier rigs built for that. Associated with the PLCE webbing system is a series of other similar load carrying equipment, individual items and rucksacks that are produced of the same materials and feature high interoperability. UK supplier of Specialist Military Webbing Equipment, high Quality British Army Webbing and Load Bearing Equipment PLCE pouches, surplus ones, should not be $200 each. Webbing belts like the Alice, PLCE, or the SMERSH? Webbing is becoming under appreciated despite how well they handle heavier loads for the user. As another poster has said there is also the PLCE harness which was used by British forces and carries the same amount of AR mags. I still have things I want to change on it and that just means more money. Using a cut down ACH for my PVS-14 and brain holder. Keep the waterbottle somewhere you can reach it, and balance the weight with a messtin (just one: you don't want the "cadet clank" of two mess tins banging together whilst patrolling) full of rations or similar. Sort of. Oct 12, 2024 · The PLCE webbing system had replaced the Type 58 Pattern webbing, which was Olive (OD/OG) in colour and made of Canvas material. That includes webbing and daysack as you can't get wet and warm kit into webbing pouches. I've heard good stuff about Jay Jay's webbing. Please read the rules, Wiki/FAQ, and use the search bar! Dump pouch go with Granite Gear or Beez Combat Systems, I use Granite Gear because it collapses flat and zips up but that's in 2 rows of PALS webbing on the blast belt. The Ballistic Helmet also has an M76/Mk VI/Mk VII-esque silhouette, though it was probably based on the French Modèle 1978 127 votes, 32 comments. Henry lever action . Main thing is the Jay Jay's gen 4 Commander's webbing version of the classic British PLCE. I would disagree with the other comments. The PLCE is perfectly fine as it is and I would probably say it has things going for it over the Alice. They are very cheap second hand and sturdy pieces of kit. Agricola. This particular rig and loadout were chosen because of its use in some reference photos of UK Parachute Regiment soldiers on Op. Your bergen (pack). Yoke is thin enough to run under armor comfortably too. The full webbing should be (pouches, left to right) : ammo (double) - water bottle - utility - (utility) - water bottle - ammo (double). I don't think I'll be doing a complete impression, though, since I don't have the shekels for an L85. I run a PLCE Webbing set with a backpack for Milsims. If you look around you can get a full set for under $100 including the pad, which is a steal considering you're usually looking at four mag pouches, two GP, and a canteen pouch. Hey everyone, I am an American who recently purchased a surplus set of PLCE webbing and it's got some markings in it. Plce>Alice/lbv all day. I have went through about 3 different webbing belts, 58, UK kombat dogshit and osprey webbing belt, if u want something that has a larger choice of pouches I really do recoment osprey webbing they are like 40ish quid around that area. If you need something on the cheap then the good ol alice webbing or surplus British DPM/MTP PLCE webbing topped off with a hippo pad is a good option. Oct 5, 2024 · If you can find any of the SADF (South African Defence Forces) DPM pattern webbing from the 1980s, these pouches are much larger than the British DPM but can be used with the PLCE belt order. They can fit fucking anything in there. The well used stuff still had plenty of wear left. Allows for the carry of 24hr kit on the belt and you can still wear a ruck with it. This is why with aftermarket webbing, the pouches are all stitched on. I would also recommend scouring pintrest and Google for photos of Alice gear set ups: I'm sure you aren't the first to attach the holster you want, maybe someone else found a way. Pattern 58 is cool and still somewhat viable in a pinch, but given a choice between it and the more modular, lightweight, and modern PLCE I'd go with the latter every time. For the record, if you ever want to upgrade grab yourself a set of surplus British PLCE webbing. The quality of construction is also much better. There are modernized versions especially coming from the UK where the pouches are directly sewn onto a wide hippo pad in a standardized arrangement and uses fastex/ITW style buckles instead of the Spanish clips. 341K subscribers in the airsoft community. Do I need a separate yoke to attach the PLCE "rocket pouch" as a daypack? You brits on the other side of the pond know what's up when it comes to webbing sets. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now upgraded PLCE webbing Gear/Equipment Now compatible with inner belt Locked post. Reply reply They’re good stuff. 326K subscribers in the airsoft community. ) mounted on a belt and supported by shoulder straps (the yoke). 260K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. They replaced it with a surprisingly modern belt system that still holds up today. 308 rig personally I'd go for a Swedish Pattern 304 webbing (either that or just throw its mag pouches on an ALICE belt lmao) and as for running 5. You should always have at least 24 hours worth of stuff on you. PLCE Bergen is a good bit of kit on its own, especially when you zip the third rocket pouch on the front. This system, after having been introduced to the forces in the year 1960, and considered long outdated by the year 1980, was still being part of the standard issue equipment of the British Armed Forces during the Falklands Conflict in the year 1982. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now Gotta stop with the “loadout” shit. If you decide to keep it, tailoring will bring some pluses depending on what you want out of it. They had the same problem that they were designed for men. We're taking 35+ lbs. that are all connected in the 40k universe. Also considerably cheaper than the velocity systems kit. I made my own helmet scrim using a British surplus Virtus scrim net with strips of an Amazon camo veil and ripstop Multicam fabric tied to the netting. Probably, webbing would probably be more of a Ukrainian thing though because it’s DPM, but I’d imagine some pro-Russians would’ve gotten some. On a personal note, I've always wondered why we never invested in those giant bum bags that the yanks have on the back of their belt kit. Thats the PLCE yoke. They do not however do buttpacks on most of their PLCE. Unlike the old PLCE the pouches are sewn directly onto a wide hippo belt, so it eliminates quite a few things such as slop/flop, bulk and weight that you’d get with molle style webbing but it also allows the pouches to mount much tighter and firmly together whereas modular pouches have that little bit of extra edging material that takes up There are also “tailored” British PLCE webbing which you can find on eBay or kitmonster or other UK trade/surplus sites. Feb 9, 2019 · PLCE webbing Those double ammo pouches on both ends of the belts hold 3 mags apiece for a possible 12 mags. I wear jeans in size 30 and so I got the commanders webbing in size small and it fits perfect with room to adjust per attire. They do make a molle hybrid version called the chameleon which is basically fixed rear pouches with molle on the sides to outfit whatever mag and utility pouches you see fit. The top, easier to read, lettering I'm pretty confident in saying is a rank and initials of the soldier who was last issued this webbing. Nov 3, 2007 · Assuming PLCE not '58, from L to R, have a double ammo, 3x waterbottle/utility, either another double ammo or a utility pouch. Items and components may include a variety of munitions and weapon ancillaries, a three-fold entrenching tool, a bayonet, food and water (including a means to heat water and prepare food), chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) protective It's generally in its power band running a really heavy loadout, like you'll find on manpack radios, M249/Mk48 gunners, or dudes rolling heavy with breaching equipment. Various kinds of load bearing systems are worn by the soldiers of the army, law enforcement officers and security workers. The PLCE webbing definitely seems to pack a lot more internal volume than its German and American counterparts, which is why I decided to opt for it. PLCE is much better designed than many other types of webbing. I have since sold the PLCE, only because I use AK's and sold my L85. Jayjays and dragons webbing can be found on eBay secondhand. This will not work without suspenders / webbing harness and also you shouldn't use a pistol belt - they are made to be stiff and it'll be uncomfortable sitting above your hips with a lot of load they'll dig in - get something more floppy, or something more padded like a battle belt. Using 550, you can tie loops for the webbing ends to go through, and tie on the ALICE pouches. Very comfortable, fairly breathable mesh, and less floppy than the Alice webbing and the standard issue PLCE webbing. The pouches won't properly fit the 152 as they are. British PLCE or their version of Load Bearing Equipment is pretty solid. British PLCE webbing is a way better option. Subreddit for both professional and civilian tactical gear. I'd go with a PLCE Webbing set (brit version of the ALICE webbing, I guess); you don't want anything restricting your front when you go prone, so keep all your gear on your sides/back. I had a modern version of British PLCE webbing and it was incredible until I wanted to wear it with a PC, then it became a game of “where are these suspenders going to rub me raw today?” Between the 4 large pouches on the back of the webbing I had everything I could conceivably need for a continuous 24 hour period without the need for a pack. Please read the rules, Wiki/FAQ, and use the search bar! Tailored PLCE webbing like Jay Jay’s, dragonsupplies, marauder tactical, kitpimpetc are quite nice and light, although not as modular. Let me know if you don't know what I mean about closing the pouches, I might have some in my garage, will take pics or find some online. Modularity is nice but molle webbing is extra weight (usually) and more flop compared to webbing that has pouches directly sewn onto a wide belt pad. PLCE webbing, set up for 48 hour sustainment, the 10L pack contains warm kit/wet kit and a poncho for shelter. Reply 316K subscribers in the airsoft community. If you're interested let me know. I took a set and made a Franken-rig out of PLCE and some ALICE stuff and it’s the tits. The set I received was a mix of well used and new items. There is also modern PLCE style Brit kit out there, both MOLLE and fixed pouch, and the fixed pouch stuff is cheap as well. And I thought that it makes some sense, since you could ditch the weight of the body armor in a flight situation, yet still have your webbing gear with all your ammo, your IFAK and whatnot, to survive. It’s a good starter kit. I have the Mk6 Helmet for this kit, I also have several sets of PLCE webbing. Just know what you’re dealing with. Your webbing. Below is a list of kit layouts designed to help you choose what to pack for exercises and camp activities starting with Combat 95 issue kit and progressing to the latest kit issue. As pointed out by u/chimp_nz i forgot to post contents!. The webbing consists of a yoke (either regular, long, or XL depending on your height. I'll also note that you posted an image of some aftermarket rig with Fastex fasteners while issue PLCE uses 'Spanish fly' fasteners and therefore looks more like this. Reply reply Multicam, helmet scrim, and PLCE webbing My brand new 22 year old m81 plce webbing. Reply reply PearlButter My reasoning to go for the C2R or anything similar to Jay Jay’s sup-ed up webbing is because the design is lighter since the pouches are sewn on, and at the same time the pouches are sewn onto what is essentially a hippo pad. Haley D3CRX, surplus TAPS rigs, even these Condors are a good cheap option. 15 votes, 48 comments. It is also much cheaper than modern battle belts whilst still having the same functionality. The British have something called a short back Bergen, as an alternative to the Alice pack. Armour is rarely used, armor is expensive, but if you wanted then something like an old PASGT Flak Vest or other old school/civi crap that you find floating around. The Brit vehicle crew just wear a plate carrier no PLCE/Webbing and use a low profile battle belt. 22 Leather belt with my belt knife. The daysack and Bergen don’t fit as much in, and the webbing can’t hold as much kit as the PLCE webbing. Might help if you get a sternum strap for the Alice pack shoulder straps. It's not that the belt setup is shit, it's that the way the US fights insurgents doesn't require sustainment kit. Pouch 1. PLCE looks set up for 48 hours (2 double ammo pouches, canteen, and 2 utility, for rations, IFAC etc) Reply reply Warhammer 40k is a franchise created by Games Workshop, detailing the far future and the grim darkness it holds. Could always replace the spanish clips with surface mount buckles for like $10 In the army, your gear in the field consisted of two parts. 35 votes, 11 comments. The new Smersh rig sort of looks like PLCE. Silky Pocket boy Long hank of Green Paracord. Also just a heads up, I’d be careful about doing extremely modern reenacting like that, especially since the conflict is still on-going. Black isn’t great for SHTF, if you like it run it. 269K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. If you can, find someone who makes custom webbing. Not even a surplus standard complete PLCE kit should cost that much. I picked up one a few years ago for £12. For the buttpack, if it has D rings, thats all you need. If you want a Vietnam War loadout, go to r/impression_kits and find a post of someone with a Vietnam War loadout, per rules of the subreddit they will have a complete list with all the components in the comments The 1958 webbing was almost as old as the Queen for crying out loud. Military load bearing gear is worn to assist in carrying equipment, firearms, ammunition, survival tools and more. You like carrying flares? Get vest webbing black/brown and stick your flares in there that's what I do. How’s the Warrior Harness? I got their PLB MK1 belt to use with some other suspenders and I might end up ordering their harness instead. Don’t have much xp with other lbe but I really dig my plce. Can be expanded with something called a “bum roll”. I use a PLCE webbing set up, 2 double ammo pouches, holster, canteen, first aid and utility pouch. Thanks all1 This is my loadout: light armor, 2x large magazine pouches, M4A1 with gyrostabilizer, m5 bayonet, any scope that let's you see far out, vertical grip and then I fill my inventories full of magazines. The move away from webbing is fairly recent. Only thing left is to to Jerry rig a camelbak to the yoke. It’s basicly a half way between a shooters belt and actual webbing. If you've the cash, LBT makes great H harnesses and chest rigs in addition to all the chest rigs available and used here. Please read the below points to consider if this is the best place to ask your question: Personally I think the British PLCE is nicer in some ways. PLCE is great 'cause you can wear your pouches where you want. Mag pouches are possible but you'd have to get the lid/flap tailored. I also like using the Spiritus Systems GP tall or the Velocity Jungle kit GP pouches for a big pouch that isn't as big as a buttpack. Rifle is one of many I can use. US military forces were still using webbing in combat zones into the mid 2000s and in training til 2010 (some ROTC only moved away from webbing in the past few years). 259K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. Its a PLCE webbing set, it has a yoke he has it under the carrier. Pretty much stitched/“tailored” PLCE webbing. Please read the rules, Wiki/FAQ, and use the search bar! I have a jayjay's commander's webbing and a TCA replica PRC152. I also have the rocket side pouch on the back to make it a 72hr kit Reply Virtus isn’t as good as PLCE on the whole. It is available online, or in surplus stores (mainly in the UK) in many different camouflage patterns. For all things airsoft. They're pretty cheap and they emulate the older PLCE pouches pretty well. Posted by u/Hillad00 - 2 votes and 14 comments Honestly one of the better and more realistic kits I have seen on this sub, only thing I'd change is the canteen for a clear canteen and the optic on your rifle for something with more magnification since you are running a 20" barrel. The Personal Load Carrying Equipment or PLCE was leaps and bounds ahead of the older 1958 webbing. Reply reply Check out surplus British MOLLE pouches. Something like PLCE or SMERSH are the most modern sustainment belt kits that have seen actual combat. I shit you not, when i worked at best buy after I got out of the army and was going to school we would have this dude come in and shop in tactical pants, a jacket with hard ass patches on the sleeves a shemagh wrapped around his neck and an operator hat in multicam with 1 harass patch on the front, his blood type on the top and a gay infidel patch on the back. I am a left handed shooter and am struggling to find a holster for my pistol. Hi u/Nerf-Gunner!Thanks for posting a question to r/BritishArmy!This community is for Serving, Former, Future members and those interested in the British Army. I have a jayjay’s commanders webbing and a Alice (with medium bag) to confirm it works. Anyone have any tips for customization and tricks of the trade I'm all ears. JayJays of Brecon, and Dragon are some of the best for Brit PLCE. With the PLCE webbing setup m you can get you by for 24 hours on it alone, granted it also depends on what clothing you’re wearing too. Posted by u/Sad_Jicama_5584 - No votes and 6 comments Every piece of the webbing in the photo (except for the MK1 knife) came from kommandostore in one of the plce webbing sets they were selling recently. I have one, it’s nice and has my only set of ICW hard and soft armor. Avoid Blackhawk Omega and their airsoft clones, they aren't as modular and they are very warm and heavy. Webbing: jayJays commanders belt, molle harness, and bumroll. Ehh, Lochkoppel is kinda mid. As for webbing, an M-1956 rig is historically correct, as well as the best rig of any kind you're ever going to own (I use mine full-time except when running the Thompson). It’s largely because people are changing their priorities to going lightweight and working in and around vehicles, assuming they’ll only get into quick fights and have a functional getaway. Have a Ontario bayonet on one side. LBX (Peruvian sister company of LBT) makes a split rig that can carry an impressive amount of stuff without having to pay LBT prices. I like webbing because they can hold a lot of ammo and a day or day and a half of sustainment and the weight is distributed between your hips and shoulders, which is much nicer than putting everything on your shoulder. If you mix everything up just vote the color of your plate carrier and/or chest rig. The spearheading infantry would start being equipped with the M62 camouflage uniforms right away, but the other forces would be equipped with the old M36 uniforms until the 1970's - my father used the M36 as the field uniform in the Coastal Artillery as late as mid 1980's (they were issued M62 too, but they weren't used often to avoid excess wear). Hello im looking to make a cold war era 80s US woodland m81 uniform and im going to attack it one piece at a time so im going to start with the webbing now my question is will these pictures i linked make the cut or is there something i should change Please let me know (also if there is to of the same thing thats only because i want to know which is more accurate) The purpose of the PLCE webbing system is to retain the means by which a soldier may operate for 48 hours or conduct a mission-specific task. They have plenty of benefits than the “factory” issued stuff. The webbing straps usually go through the PLCE metal webbing rings/plates or D rings, and then up to the ladderlock buckles on the yoke. I very much love my Jay Jay's Gen IV commander's webbing but ordered one of these (in God's Plaid of course) to see if I like it better. 87 votes, 38 comments. The question came to me, when I saw pics of British soldiers in the Middle East wearing their Osprey Body armor on top of their issued Plce-webbing. As soon as it did anything it would move off my hips onto my waist /ribs area. If you're looking for a belt kit thats comfortable and sensible, look to the UK webbing options, and used PLCE as well. Haven't tried it with MOD issue PLCE webbing because I really don't want to have to dig them out of the bottom storage bin but I'm confident they don't fit either. When SHTF, I think I’m rolling with an STT with front pontoons and an Eagle Ergo underneath, but that’s because I’m looking at 1-3 days in the field, not kicking Probably the Jayjay’s commander’s webbing but I can’t speak for how well they hold AKM or AK74 mags though. Because the pouches are molle you can "double decker" an open top 2 mag shingle between the pouch and the belt for an emergency reload. Ruck w/ plce webbing vs chest rig Hi, trying to find what works and looking for experience from anyone that have been rucking using a chest rig and ruck with hip belt and also rucking with having the ruck sit on the plce webbing back pouches. Step 1: The PLCE Webbing PLCE webbing is a system which uses pouches (ammunition, waterbottle, utility, radio etc. Please read the rules, Wiki/FAQ, and use the search bar! I have to second the statement made by u/MediumApplication9-- you shouldn't need a plate carrier for a carbine class, and at the low end of the market everything sucks so much that you're honestly better off not using armor until you can afford to buy quality armor and carriers. 50 on eBay, an absolute steal. I've been itching for a plce set for a while since Florida is akin to the areas Yall train and use this gear for over there. It was an popular choice if they could could get away with it. I am a woman and have used battle belts/webbing systems in the field and really struggled. Civilian tactical habits followed the phase out of webbing for tac vests and then plate carriers. IIRC Dixie's Corner, another UK gear maker, offers that as a ready made option. This rig is modeled after the venerable British PLCE webbing but has some features more in line with American thinking (mainly a buttpack sized rear pouch instead of two separate sustainment pouches). You could look at British PLCE or if you have the money there is the Velocity Systems Jungle Kit. Not very ideal for vehicle ops but great for foot stuff. 267K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. Misc pouches you can look into repurposing an Esstac to hold a multi tool or another TQ but there are specific pouches for those too. The GP AND 100 round SAW pouches are similar to the PLCE GP pouches. Hope this helps. Plus the retention system on the old PLCE webbing is annoying to work with because the Velcro doesn’t always work. New comments cannot 63 votes, 55 comments. That’s a good point, the Siege-R is designed for entry teams, not so much a balanced endurance loadout. I think where PLCE really shines compared to the ALICE is that the yoke and pouch attachment is better. That's an uncommon load for civilians, so generally speaking it's a military orientated design. Webbing weight 20lb with water. The dates indicate when the layouts were first published in the Cadet Direct catalogue. I have prior experience with a much, much more used and abused incomplete set that has since been put into permanent storage, and i know it is a comfortable lbe system. Then comment saying if you wear similar… Just the regular issue bergens will be fine though. Tried out everything modern, from lbv, pc, molle webbing, nothing fucks as much as the plce. PLCE have smaller increments compared to molle, and with stitched webbing systems derived from PLCE, there is zero wasted space as the pouches are stitched together, similar to some of the popular fixed pouch chest rigs you see on the market. Tailored/stitched/custom mod PLCE would make more sense to be up near $200 though. Jajaysbrecon and dragon supplies are the best websites for webbing in the UK hands down. They come in the form of vests, combat rigs, webbing, holsters and belts. You can offset this by changing shoulder straps, cummerbunds, mag carriers, med bags, with different camo/colors. for running a . Easy to source and affordable. Gear wise a chicom of lifchik would be a great choice, you could probably run ALICE or PLCE webbing too. Same goes for tailored webbing which you can also find in the links above. Wrong. My current set up. I used to EDC a pair of the US ALICE water bottles either side of my webbing belt, the pouches contained the 58 pattern water bottles *Osprey water bottles. 3-4 of your rear pouches are going to be used for sustainment anyway, so it is really the choice between ammunition or admin for the front pouches. I've got a set of 95 pattern plce webbing with all pouches buckled and brand new roll pin belt. Very light too since it’s a web belt with integrated pouches. Belt. Multicam, helmet scrim, and PLCE webbing. Webbing has mostly been looked past in the recent… PLCE webbing is very good, the modularity of it makes it extremely useful. I originally used issued PLCE webbing system and then bought my own ATS set. lpra kuugj digr gtapipx nevqh tcxnc bznv ufi khmnzv qqmdb pyvqwp gztzny njqcs wnfryal mnpw